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50.  Elküldve:
2006-10-15 20:40:55 |
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Hi Enikő,
No snow here. I live in the desert area of Southern California. It snows in the mountains nearby but very, very rarely near me. If so, it melts within a couple hours.
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| 49. Elküldve:
2006-10-15 20:36:33 |
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Obviously I am no good at using smileys! The last one I picked was supposed to be cute with a thumbs up! I am bad. 
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| 48. Elküldve:
2006-10-15 20:30:37 |
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Hi Monika,
There is really nothing cuter than Kuvasz puppies.  Love their wavy coats. On Bessy too. She looks like she had a strong topline. Also something not that common here, dark skin on the belly.
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| 45. Elküldve:
2006-10-15 20:11:08 |
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I sent an email to a Kuvasz email list back in 2004 of my experiences at this show. I included the critiques from the judges. so, the easiest thing would to repost that message here. It will mean lots of hard translating for those who don't speak English! Sorry about that. 
Here is my message :
"Thanks everyone for you leash and collar recommendations. I used the 30
inch one this weekend. Decided to go to the International All Breed
Canine Association Of America (Alle Rasse Gruppe) shows (3 shows in 2
days) at Newport Beach. Thought it would be good experience for Magda.
This showing system is completely different than the AKC, and I spent most
of the weekend a little confused. But I'll do my best to give information
about the shows. The judges we had were Patti Long Smith (Texas) judged
yesterday, John Ramirez (California) judged yesterday, and Dr. Steve
Keating (Texas) judged today. Dogs get written evaluations by each judge
and are also given a rating. Magda went in the 6 to 9 month puppy class
called Jungsten. She received an SG 1 rating (the highest a puppy can
get) from each judge, so she is now a National Chmapion in the IABCA
system. Plus I got some really positive comments about Magda orally.
Here are the evaluation sheets for Magda (I just figured out how to read
the form, so NOW all the shorthand stuff makes sense).
Oh, and I forgot to mentiont that it was RAINING during the classes
yesterday. Ugh, that part was miserable (got a whole river of water pour
right on my head from one of the awnings the judges were standing under).
Magda, however loved the rain, the pill!
The first judge had the hardest time, with a bunch of dogs jammed under
that awning while it poured just outside the roofline--two rings at once
being judged under there with very little room. It was exciting (and
Magda loved it of course!).*g*
Patti Long Smith:
Judgement has potential, social,
Beurteilung alert, loves mommy!
1. Allg. Eindruck nice young female
Overall Impression
2. Haarkleid good coat
Coat
3. Kopf feminine
Head
4. Gebiss scissor bite
Bite, mouth
5. Auge good pigment dark
Eyes
6. Behang/Ohr set correctly
Ears
7. Brust to elbow promise of forechest
Chest
8. V-Hand moderate
Front Angulation
9. H-Hand good bend of stiffle
Back angulation
10. Rucken good for age
Top Line
11. Rute carried well
Tail
12. Aktion good!
Movement
John Ramirez (I have a hard time reading some of his writing):
Judgement Well built for age
Beurteilung
1. Allg. Eindruck Showy puppy
Overall Impression
2. Haarkleid Good texture & condition
Coat
3. Kopf Typey bitch head
Head
4. Gebiss Correct
Bite, mouth
5. Auge Proper size & color
Eyes
6. Behang/Ohr Well set
Ears
7. Brust Well developed for age
Chest
8. V-Hand balanced front & rear
Front Angulation
9. H-Hand " " "
Back angulation
10. Rucken Level
Top Line
11. Rute Proper carriage
Tail
12. Aktion Moves [second word is illegible!]
Movement
After the class he made comments about how nice Magda was and said I would
do well with her in the ring. That she was very animated as opposed to
many Kuvasz who are kind of dull/dead (can't remember which word he used)
in the ring.
Dr. Steve Keating:
Judgement Good balance/proportional
Beurteilung female
1. Allg. Eindruck Good attitude
Overall Impression
2. Haarkleid excellent texture
Coat
3. Kopf beautiful shape
Head
4. Gebiss correct for breed
Bite, mouth
5. Auge correct shape/set
Eyes
6. Behang/Ohr good placement
Ears
7. Brust good spring of rib
Chest
8. V-Hand well assembled
Front Angulation
9. H-Hand well angulated
Back angulation
10. Rucken strong/firm
Top Line
11. Rute nice carriage
Tail
12. Aktion good motion
Movement
Magda thought the whole thing was thrilling. Er, she was not exactly
perfectly behaved (better the second day than the first) as she did more
bouncing around the ring than actually gaiting, but it was rather fun
(especially when one has a firecracker at the end of the lead). I got so
many people coming up to pet Magda and say how beautiful they thought she
was--people with all different breeds. Had a handler showing Rotties take
her out in the parking lot to gait and stack her (she free baited GREAT
for him). Wow, I sure never got her looking that good. I was stunned it
was my dog. He said she was really cute and had THE attitude of a
showdog. Well, enough bragging for now. Feel free to chop my swelled
head down to size.
A few more things. The prizes are pretty neat, a certificate signed by
each judge and with her name printed on it with cute little medallions and
ribbons plus a neck ribbon (with another medallion) to hang around her
neck (from each class). As well as the evaluation forms. Oh, and I had
her championship pictures taken with the marina as a background. Hope
they turn out!
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| 44. Elküldve:
2006-10-15 19:46:45 |
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Hi Jozsef,
Magda won a puppy title at a show that uses the FCI standard (yours!) but it was not actually an FCI show. The organization is called the International All Breed Canine Association of America (IABCA). The way titles are awarded is different than at the AKC shows where most Americans show their dogs. In these IABCA shows, dogs must earn multiple certificates from different judges in order to win titles (in AKC shows dogs must defeat a certain number of dogs of its own breed to earn a championship title--very different concept). Also at IABCA shows, dogs get written critiques from the judges.
I will post the critiques.
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| 43. Elküldve:
2006-10-15 19:35:23 |
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Hi Imre,
How did I find this forum? Google!!!! 
I was searching for pictures of famous Kuvasz and Kuvasz currently winning in the show ring in Hungary, and Google found netboard.hu. This was months ago. I really enjoyed all the pictures of these excellent dogs, but I had a hard time understanding the text. I recently found an online Hungarian-English dictionary. It isn't the best because there are many words posted in this forum that the dictionary does not understand. Also, some definitions are hilarious (means very, very funny!), and I know they cannot be correct.
I am trying to learn some Hungarian, but I'm afraid I may be too old to learn another language. According to the online dictionary, "Tessie" means "please" in Hungarian. I had no idea!  Here, "Tessie" is just a girl's name. My email address must seem odd with "Tessie" in it. Now I will know why I may get strange looks from Hungarian people. 
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| 42. Elküldve:
2006-10-15 19:27:04 |
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Hey Bmudi!
Thank you very much. The way show results have been listed on this site, I couldn't tell which titles were the best--HFGY meaning BOB. As for Nagyon ígéretes, I thought maybe it meant the dog was absent . You have really cleared things up for me. I think I like you a lot!!!!!!
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| 34. Elküldve:
2006-10-14 18:05:10 |
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I would like to thank everyone for the warm welcome and for being so helpful. Are there any questions you would like to ask me about Kuvasz in America? Dog shows in America? Magda is the first dog I've owned that has been shown very much, but I might know the answers. 
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| 31. Elküldve:
2006-10-14 09:54:58 |
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Hi Monika,
I see you found Magda's photo album linked from the Glacier Creek Kuvasz webpage. I also sent you some other photos . One of me with Magda last year and some pictures of Ximanya and Tessie. That is me with Magda at a show in Newport Beach (with the boats in the background). The photo is deceiving! Magda was holding still ONLY for the toy the photographer threw to get her attention. Otherwise she was bouncing around being a happy, wild puppy. 
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| 30. Elküldve:
2006-10-14 09:49:14 |
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Hi Enikő,
Actually, we had our first rain of the season here is sunny Southern California. It is probably warmer in Hungary. 
Saturday is supposed to rain more!
Fruszi is a lovely puppy. I know of Hun-Zazholm and Vacligeti, but I'm not familiar with Tétényszépe Beri. Who is the owner?
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| 24. Elküldve:
2006-10-14 00:14:04 |
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Oh dear. I think I clicked on the wrong smiley. Evidently I am drinking.
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| 23. Elküldve:
2006-10-14 00:12:58 |
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Hey Outsider,
That is great about the database. I will wait eagerly! 
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| 21. Elküldve:
2006-10-13 23:50:46 |
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Hi Bmudi,
I do enjoy talking about Kuvasz. You may be sorry to find out how much.
There are things about Hungarian dog shows I do not understand. The terminology. What is an HPJ? What is an HFGY? What does nagyon ígéretes mean????
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| 20. Elküldve:
2006-10-13 23:34:18 |
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Hi Enikő (hey, I can cut and paste and get your name right!),
I'm here now, but I suppose most everyone in Hungary has gone to bed. 
Now that Eromi has posted pictures of your dogs, please tell me who they are? From what kennels did Fruzsina and Saci come from?
I would post pictures of my dogs, but I don't know how! I could send pictures to someone in email if they could post pictures for me.
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| 11. Elküldve:
2006-10-13 09:36:48 |
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Hi Eromi,
You have the most unusual assortment of smileys here. I've been reading this forum for some time (trying to!), and I keep seeing people use one that looks like a flamethrower and another that looks like a gavel smashing a head. Wow I thought people must be angry about something. I sure don't want to make them mad!
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| 10. Elküldve:
2006-10-13 09:17:54 |
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Hi there Eniko (sorry I can't put the marks that look like they go over the "o"). Tell me about your dogs. Where did you get them, what are their pedigrees?
Eromi thank you for creating such a nice place to discuss the Kuvasz. It is a like a treasure trove around here. I hardly know where to start with my questions.
I do have a suggestion though. Could a thread be started where people post 4 or 5 generation pedigrees of their dogs? I really enjoy studying pedigrees.
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| 6. Elküldve:
2006-10-13 08:44:52 |
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Hi Eromi and Veteran,
I don't know who you are Eromi but I do know you Veteran. The Kuvasz at my feet while I type this is Ximanya who will be 12 years old on November 4. She is a daughter of Vertesi-Selymes Emir and her mother's sire is Vodicai Feher Bator Csengo. My other Kuvasz is in the kitchen at the moment, closest to her favorite thing--food! Her name is Magda and she is 3 years old. She was bred by Glacier Creek Kuvasz in Alaska. I have owned 2 other Kuvasz, both now deceased. The first one I got in 1978. She lived to be 10 1/2 years old. My other was the "Tessie" that I use in my email addresses and forum memberships. Tessie died last year at the age of 12. My name is Melissa and I live in Southern California. I am interested in learning a lot about the Kuvasz now in Hungary, and this forum looks like a great place for that purpose.
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| 2. Elküldve:
2006-10-13 07:26:39 |
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Greetings! I would love to discuss Kuvasz with the experts on this forum. However, I don't understand Hungarian. It took me at least two hours to guess at how to register. I hope I clicked the right buttons!
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