TERMINATOR 3

Quote: Originally posted by Lasaris on July-31-2003
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WB execs forced Mostow to cut the 20 min of footage becuase it was
1. too confusing
2. the movie seemed to "drag" for them and they wanted a get to the point (even more than the movie was supposed to be)
3. they felt that much character development dialogue wasnt needed (t-850 conversation in CRS with John: I Was Made Here)
4. the alternate ending/the longer extended ending with the tunnel scene and the full t-x endo chase was long, expensive and poitlness to WB execs. (although i think Mostow cut this part out.

The administrator who saw the unedited version i believe, was screened in may and the execs loved it.
i also believe that it it wasnt for so much money on matrix promotions, (and the big failure).
T3 would of recieved the same amount of treatment, instead they pulled out of the MASTER PLAN
^(i believe it WAS administration/ a guy that works for them who started this, not a user on this board because i specifically remember _________ mentioning something BIG is happening in a couple of months in January of this year and named it a grandmaster plan).


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Quote: Originally posted by nest on July-31-2003
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Where did you get that about WB forcing Mostow to cut footage? I heard WB execs had no objections about T3 when they first saw it.


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Quote: Originally posted by Lasaris on July-31-2003
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First of all, what better way to please a company then a director who basically got no respect then say the opposite of what they really did (force him to cut footage).

Second, this company would totally fry this director if he said they "forced" him to cut out anything, this director is very smart, so he just said he cut out footage and the higher executives had nothing to do with it.

Third, u may be right, this company was totally please with that 2:20 so movie when they screened it. After matrix, i believe this company thought some material dialogue (the architect) was too confusing for a terminator movie. i also believe this company thought the movie may have 'lagged', so they "wanted" this director to do what they wanted him to do.
^^^^^^this third option is just my opinion, i have not mentioned a single name.


I know im not the only one who knows this, one or two people here do and i hope they back me up on this instead of making me look like i totally BS'ed this and im only looking for attention. IM NOT.

To get things clear, im not trying to bash anyone or any company, im just expressing what happened to my understandings, if you don’t believe me, that’s ok, it sounds a little too much…



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Quote: Originally posted by TheStorm on July-31-2003
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Lasaris I'm not going to say names either but I have some sources that said the same thing you did. I do believe this to be true. I talked to some people I know some of this stuff and they said exacally what you said. And that old set report with Stan talking about how the huge tunnel fight.

Interesing, this better be in a Special Edition DVD.


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Quote: Originally posted by T900 102 on July-31-2003
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i dont have any sources telling me anything. Lasaris and TheStorm confirmed what i was thinking about since i first saw T3.

Mostow is a smart man, and i doubt he would cut out scenes that are vital to the plot (i.e, how CRS got the Terminator technology, etc.) unless he was forced to.

My biggest fear all along was that greedy execs would butcher T3 by cutting out a lot of scenes. When we were told that the execs "loved" Mostow's cut back in May, i was relieved. Now, i am saying to myself that i should have known better. Mostow doesnt have any power in Hollywood like James Cameron has. When i read the novel, i suspected that execs would have cut out many scenes. I tried to get that thought out of my head, but my biggest fear has been finally confirmed.

I hate WB, and i hate The Matrix Reloaded. Its utter crappiness caused all of this.


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Quote: Originally posted by TheStorm on July-31-2003
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Yea and lets hope they relize this and RE-INSERT all the missing scenes back in. Not on the side. Including the alternate ending fight.

Also what ****s is the people that are bashing T3 and now Mostow don't really understand that his true vision of T3 may of been changed a lot during post production, how much can be changed in that time is unbelievable.

From lots of others I have heard that I know know people in the industry said a lot of what I've heard. And now this guy saying the same thing.


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So what does this prove? Nothing for sure, but wat it does imply is that nothing good was going on behind the scenes.